Hate website, DailyKos Rumors Debunked: (Update #2 from TownHall.com)

Obama, or whatever his name might really be, and his minions, in the blogosphere and the wrongly named MSM, are beyond the pale.

They live now in an amorality, a place devoid of ethics and conscience and decency, that reflect the secularism which is their religion.

And if you think I’m saying that Obama is not a Christian, then you’re right. At best, he is a PCINO, a Protestant Christian in name only.

Were he a Christian, as well as a man, he would stand up and demand that his followers stop this execrable behavior.

But he is neither.

Even after his campaign immediately made fun of Gov. Palin for being a former mayor of a small town, he did not repudiate the messaage itself, just its tone.

He, as some of his followers also decided to become, is a despicable person.

But that’s his choice, though I’m sure the so lacks testicularity, that he will find someone to blame for his conscious choices.

CKA, Have you completely lost your mind?! This has nothing to do with Obama or McCain. It has to do with the safety of Americans, including our soldiers! If Palin is to be the next VP, then it is our right as American citizens to know the truth. PERIOD. Instead of spreading your insults, you should be more interested in the security of this nation and the future of children.

Daily Kos is a swamp with no bottom. Thanks for the pics. This should put an end to this one once and for all!

Amy, Then gets your facts from a reliable source.The daily Kos is not it.

also thy out this link, it might help quell your fears. I personally think she is more ready than Obama.http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/31/foreign-policy-experience-what-americans-dont-know-about-sarah-palin/

It is sick beyond belief that this is even being discussed. And what the hell are people like “Amy” talking about? This has nothing to do with “truth” and everything to do with the fact that the DKos and DU folks are simply acting slimy, nasty and vicious for no other reason than it helps them get their hate-mongering rocks off.

Of course she didn’t lie about having a baby to cover up her daughter’s pregnancy.

The Governor, a vocal anti-choice Republican, chose to return to Alaska to have her 5th child despite the following risk factors:
1. She was leaking amniotic fluid (her water broke) increasing the risk of infection.
2. She was 44 years old, a risky age for childbirth.
3. The baby she was carrying had known “special challenges” (down syndrome)
4. The child was one full month premature.
5. She flew from Texas to Alaska on a commercial airline (Alaska Airlines) while while leaking amniotic fluid, a 10 or more hour flight depending on the length and location of her layover.
6. She did not inform any of the airline staff of her condition.

However, Gregg Erickson, a reporter from the Anchorage Daily News, told the Daily Kos that the rumors had been investigated and debunked.

So it appears that these behaviors are not those of a person faking/covering up a pregnancy but merely those of someone with terrible, terrible judgment.

its not just daily kos making posts about this. and how does it reflect on obama or anyone when independent bloggers are making these posts? to suggest otherwise is just as stupid as claiming that there was a coverup without any evidence. heres another pic that seems to make her VERY pregnant. and for the record, im voting for obama, and palin doesnt need to be smeared to be discredited as an irrational choice of a “gut” politician because he realized he couldnt pick leiberman.

heres the photo: http://alaskareport.com/images48/trig_paxon_van_palin.jpg

this just proves that people can scour the internet for blurry photos. if you buy these, ive got some UFO photos to sell you..

(can’t edit the post but here is the link - http://alaskareport.com/news48/x61145_trig.htm)

CKA Seek help because you have clearly lost it!!

And if it’s true? If Palin lied to protect her daughter, so what? Bill Clinton lied for worse reasons. but if she lied to McCain about it, that’s serious.

It just shows me how scared the Obama campaign is now…it sickens me how they can promote this. They can’t discredit her with anything else, obviously. “Hope and change” and a “new kind of politics”, indeed! Smells like the same old garbage to me.

Jack, the pictures are very clear, nothing wrong with scouring the internet. What is the matter with you?

Her ankles are even swollen in the picture at the podium. Yeah, she’s carrying.

Not really debunked. The woman who saw her at the airport saw her after she announced the pregnancy to the world. At that point she looked pregnant.

Ummmm…the woman is breastfeeding.

I’ll give anyone who doubts she was pregnant a billion dollars if they can explain that fact.

[cricket cricket cricket]

Easy. You can get injections to stimulate lactation. No pregnancy required. If she knew she was adopting, she could arrange to do this. Adopting moms of newborns can choose to do this and it is routine.

Breastfeeding, eh? Where’s those pictures!!!

Seriously, shame on those who post this rumor without proof. Ditto for those who blame Obama for what some blogger posts. He’s no more responsible for that than McCain is for every dumb thing Rush or Sean say.

But you do have to admit, the whole fact she had a fifth kid at 44, got knocked up while running for governor, and the whole flying back to Alaska thing does raise questions about her judgement.

Certainly this is not the type of woman who is going to win over Hillary supporters. But she will draw raves from fellow kool-aid drinkers.

The baby momma scandal a red herring. The real game is sandbagging growing internet attention on the lawsuit Phillip Berg brought against Obama Aug 22 in federal court in Philladelphia. A Clinton-appointed federal judge is moving the case forward, with responses demanded by Oct 20. Looks like Obama is going to have to produce evidence he meets the constitutional requirements to assume the office of POTUS. Berg is an eccentric crank, but he’s a life-long Democrat and former Deputy AG, and candidate for US Senate and for Governor of PA. This is a serious legal challenge and you can read about here:

http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/is-this-for-real-and-why-hasnt.html

Here’s another pregnancy pic for you.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30076181@N02/2814199887

Thanks to all who have left links to those pictures! I hate that she might have to endure that junk during debates.

I read the Daily Kos and now this thread. I am emotionally drained and sickened that people in this country could be so vile and disgusting as to attempt to slander a child and her mother. The ends do NOT justify the means. Sick, disgusting people that need to check into hospitals themselves.

I agree with disallusioned and disgusted above. This is sick to go after a politician using an innocent baby.

Alan Colmes is the most recent offender, (and unrepentant I might add)

Check: http://www.alan.com for his post and blame the mother theory of Downs Syndrome.

I’ve seen many of CKA’s posts on many web sites. I’ve always found them right on the mark. Amy, you’ve got some serious homework to do with regard to your candidate. But even if you can’t get up to speed by November 4, that’s okay. He’s dropping in the polls anyway, so your vote isn’t going to help him.

This type of rumor is what I would expect from some of the more crazed Obamafans. Hey, and even if it were true, I’m sure Obama would understand that Palin was just “feeling a little down” - but don’t piss her off or “her claws will come out”. Gee - I wonder why Obama supporters are so sexist? I guess like everything else, crap also trickles down.

Hmm. Sounds kinda like all the rumors that Obama is a closet muslim, a radical black panther, supports terrorist weathermen, hates america, was sworn in on a koran, or won’t put his hand over his heart for the pledge. Am I forgetting anything? I guess there are idiots in both parties…big surprise.

I’m amazed at the number of people who are blaming Obama for something that appears to be entirely the work of independent bloggers. How willing are those same people to discount the words of GOP advisors, on the grounds that McCain hasn’t officially endorsed them? Neither Obama nor any of his advisors has anything to do with DailyKos.

Nice work! Good Find!

The Kos and DU bots wouldn’t recognize a pregnant woman if they saw one. Those don’t usually appear on internet porn sites, therefore they are entirely unfamiliar with them.

Erin, try Obama’s own website. The filth and violent, misogynistic rabble rousing has been going on there for months.

Yes, Obama has to be aware, and no, he has done nothing to call it out. It’s on his head.

Man, it is really incredible to watch the left completely screw themselves. I wonder if they’ll learn anything this time around.

Ah, yes. The reasonably intelligent ones will become non-lefties. The rest will continue on the road to insanity. Poor dummies.

This link leads to a picture that very clearly shows a pregnant Governor Palin in Juneau (Post #24).

http://www.therightreasons.net/index.php?showtopic=8967&st=20

http://celebritybabies.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/03/trigpalin_baby_ny112.jpg
The face of a woman who’s had a baby. Every woman I know, myself included, got a chubby face in the 3rd trimester. You can’t fake that

http://alaskareport.com/images48/trig_paxon_van_palin.jpg

To indy in indynapolis and others–The reason is simple why we blame Obama -he went before the DailyKos Scum convention and that’s enough of a connection to say he takes the DailyKos positions seriously-they are part of the reason he got the nomination so he must know what they write and needs their hate mongering to get out the vote along with Huffington post and their sugar daddy–Soros.

There’s a whole lot of pots calling the kettles black!

We have those on the Right OUTRAGED that those on the Left (e.g., KOS) would spring things about Palin (etc.!) based upon leaps in logic drawn from thin evidence.

And we have those on the Left OUTRAGED that those on the Right (e.g., Freepers) would spring things about Obama (etc.!) based upon leaps in logic drawn from thin evidence.

Smears from the Right, smears from the Left.

Yes, Obama’s 100% correct. We need a new politics away from this sort of crap.

This is disgusting behavior on the part of BO supporters. I doubt Obama will step forward to say “enough” b/c he benefitted tremendously from this type of thing aimed at HRC. The misogyny of the Dem Party is now clear. I’m done with it.

The left in this country is an utterly depraved, vile element and they own the Democrat party. A normal person who generally likes America can’t enter a chatroom or read a lefty blog for 5 minutes without feeling sick and angered at what is being said on any given day. They now have a stealth radical candidate that is the culmination of decades of effort to get one in the White House.

America is poised for disaster because of widespread ignorance and the forces that have cultivated that ignorance. If Obama is elected nothing short of a second American Civil War will set the country back on course. It may be too late already because these leftists have infiltrated all major institutions of government, education, media, and the culture.

My friends,(as McCain would say)we are literally on the knife’s edge and November will decide if America continues as a force for good and freedom, or if we falter. And if we begin to falter the entire Western world will not be far behind and will in fact jump ahead and fall first because we are stronger but we will join them soon enough. It will be the end.

60 days to decide our collective fate.

You’re all retarded. If I was her husband I would be hunting each one of you down to kick your ass. Slimes.

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/

do you think Rove is behind this? Remember how Dan Rather took those fake Bush documents and went national with them, only to be proven wrong and disgraced. Could it have been that Rove put the Bristol pic out there, with a phony date, so that the lib blogs would pick up on it and disgrace Gov Palin, without doing so much as any follow-up for accuracy. Now Obama and the liberal blogosphere look like a bunch of rumor mongers with no credibiliy whatso ever…

Are you kidding me? Barry/Barack hangs out with a racist reverend, a unrepentant terrorist, some crazy *ss preacher who thinks he’s Vanilla Ice, and the best that Barry Soetoro’s minions can come up with is whether Gov. Palin is the actual the mother of her baby? I’m disgusted and honestly, I hope everyone here will stand up to say enough is enough. I can’t go through another cycle of woman beating by the media or by the Democrats. I already wrote letters to the news media to say that if the other side can scream racism, I can d*mn well yell sexism. This woman does not deserve this and I’m so ashamed to have been a Democrat all these years. The desperation to win the WH back has made the DNC beyond contempt and vile. Progressive my *ss!

Hey that above comment was a mistake. I was cross posting with like six tabs open. No one here needs a whoopin, just a pat on the back. Admin, you can remove these comments. This crap is seriously pissing me off though.

To pro-life people the caliber of Sarah Palin, an unwed teenage daughter’s pregnancy would be another opportunity to showcase the pro-life position that every human life is sacred and worth living. Sarah would not have gone to enormous lengths to hide this if it were true - she would turn it into a positive. That’s how people like Sarah handle the inevitable hurdles of life.

You on the left will not, cannot, understand this. It’s not in your nature. Strength and courage born of faith and anchored in truth - a paradox to the left.

Their backup plan is to go after Palin for travelling from Texas to Alaska after her water broke.

I’m a strong Obama supporter, and I think the “not her baby” theory is pure crap. It’s about the same as thinking Obama is some kind of radical, or that McCain is the Manchurian candidate. Of course, Obama had nothing to do with this story, just as McCain had nothing to do with certain BS claims about Obama. Some blogger just comes up with some crap, like-minded people want very badly to believe it, and it takes on a life of its own.

dcattorney, don’t be modest. You were probably done with the Democratic Party long before this.

You right-winged nuts are all crazy. Obama was attacked wrongly to be a muslim, non of you came to debunk the story. Mccain has not said a word toay. Jerome Corsi wrote a scam of a book on Obama, Mccain said you got to have a SENSE OF HUMOR AT TIMES, Now they are doing the same thing to Sarah Palin and the whole right-winged nuts are crying. I for one wants it to be her baby so she can remain Senator Mccain’s choice. Any democrat will chew her up in a debate. Thank you Senator Mccain, you just made this election all about you. Everyone will be vetting your choice for the next two months making it easier for Obama to run on issues. Thank you Senator Mccain.

“Neither Obama nor any of his advisors has anything to do with DailyKos.”

Right… and Bush had nothing to do with the Swiftboat Vets.

Actually, I should add, that doesn’t mean I think they’re both true. I actually agree that Obama’s campaign probably has nothing to do with these smears, just as I don’t think the Bush campaign “created” or gave marching orders to the Swift Boat Vets. I think they were in fact independent entities. I’m consistent in that view. I’m willing to bet anything, though, that you’re applying your “the campaign had nothing to do with it” logic in only one direction.

Qwinn

All I have to say is that God say is that every man and women will reap what they sow, and he said vengence is mind and I will re-pay. So I asked do you think it is okay for MCain and his team to go and put out negative ads against obama, and the Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and other can keep on bad mouthing him. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

Also MCCain only chose Sarah cause he was threaten by Rush, Sean, and other in his circle that they would walk out of the convention if he didn’t pick someone they liked. so all I have to say when things happen LOOK UP!!!

Gov. Sarah Palin gave birth to her fifth child at 6:30 this morning (April 18th) at Mat-Su Regional Medical Center, her spokeswoman said today.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/380134.html

However, Mat-Su Regional Medical Center does not reflect the baby was born there:
http://www.matsuregional.com/nursery/nursery_calendar.php?month=05&year=2008 (site currently down)

April 18 births were:

Isaiah Travis
Kayden Lexus

Once again the Obama camp is trotting its sexism out. It worked on Hillary why not Palin?
There was a time when then democratic party was respected even if its policies were opposed. No more. The nuts have taken it over.
Obama never said a word about the sexism leveled against Hillary. Could Hillary have stood by if an equal amount of racism had been leveled against Obama? Not hardly.
Does anyone think the “feminist ” groups will step up and defend Palin? Hell they threw Hillary under the bus.
OH btw, I’m male and an independent.

sorry wrong one.

http:/media.nga.org/wm2008/monnewsconference.wmv

The prevalent Obama defense to this kind of crap, which by the way also involved an innocent teen-aged girl, is that he can’t be responsible for everything people say on the blogs. Well, actually, that is true in a literal sense. But attitudes filter down, not up. It’s true in large corporations, it’s true in politics. Obama has to know these vile things are going on, they haven’t just begun since Sarah Palin came into the picture, and Obama has not once addressed the issue. Not once, even when the person being attacked was a memeber of his own party. So what does that say about his character? I would not vote for this creature if one of my own kids was on the ticket with him.

Who cares???! Where does she stand on the issues?

I don’t care if her water broke and if she took a caravan home —

HOW much is my frickin life going to change? How bad will this one take from my pocketbook…. is my cousin Calvin going back to Afghanistan … will the airports get any better…how am I and those I love are living…

Sorry to sound selfish, but I wonder that.

I don’t think I could vote for Obama anymore after seeing the true face of his supporters. Sickening, sickening stuff. Really sad.

of course you deleted my last comment!!!! I thought this was America land of freedom of speech?(unless we agree with you that is ) LOL

I deleted your comment because we don’t entertain trashy comments

the problem i have with this is it is an unproven rumor at best which, tho it may cause minor damage to gov palin , is a nasty attack on the reputation and morals of a SIXTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL!! if obama insists his wife and family are off limits why can he for a moment allow this young girl to be smeared like this.is this his hope and change??

As neither a Democrat or Republican, it’s absolutely great to watch the incensed right-wingers spin out over this allegation. The GOP has been dishing out most of the unsubstantiated smears the last decade or so, but man, can they not take it. maybe they can get a discounnt on leg extensions for that high horse they all seem to climbing on to defend Palin.

Seems to me this story about this baby really being Sarah’s daughter’s is bogus. Implying that is has anything to do with the Obama campaign is equally so.

So let’s ignore the lunatic fringe of both Left and Right for a moment, consider this:

History has now shown us that the Bush/Cheney campaign run by Rove, and the Swift-boating that followed, was pretty much a constant stream of lies. These talking-point lies were stated as fact both rabid fans, and certain media outlets.

If anyone is seriously trying to figure out what’s going on now, wouldn’t it be best to look for more reliable sources?
Maybe ones that tend to be more centrist/neutral?

This site clearly not being one of them. You want to see who is telling the truth about things? Try factcheck.org.

The lunatic fringe on both sides needs to start un-brainwashing themselves.

I couldn’t care one way or the other about Palin’s pregnancy. I care that she is unqualified, untested on the national arena, doesn’t know what a VP does all day (her words) and most of all that she is an extreme fundamentalist Christian with the Assemblies of God church, the believers in Armageddon, coming soon.

Love God. Just don’t want to meet Him so soon.

Nice work on the photos, though I feel dirty coming anywhere near this site. What an impressive collection you’ve got yourselves here. And I hate to respond and lower the level of discourse, when it’s already below the floor for the most part, but the person who wrote the comment quoted below cannot really be serious, can they?

It’s amazing how people get so focused on keeping themselves entrenched on the sides they’ve taken up that they don’t actually have time for a critical, reasonable thought or two. I guess it’s just easier to think within the framework that you’ve been spoon-fed, huh? Vast left-wing conspiracy and all that. Tax and spend. More of the same. . . I don’t know… I just guess it would be nice if more people could articulate their view of the world without merely parroting somebody else’s talking points, and maybe be a little bit cynical about the people on both sides instead of just the OTHER side.

‘It just shows me how scared the Obama campaign is now…it sickens me how they can promote this. They can’t discredit her with anything else, obviously. “Hope and change” and a “new kind of politics”, indeed! Smells like the same old garbage to me.’

No, Amy, I have neither completely lost my mind or parts thereof.

“CKA, Have you completely lost your mind?! This has nothing to do with Obama or McCain. It has to do with the safety of Americans, including our soldiers! If Palin is to be the next VP, then it is our right as American citizens to know the truth. PERIOD. Instead of spreading your insults, you should be more interested in the security of this nation and the future of children.”

Quite aware this has to do with safety of Americans. That’s why I believe that Obama-Biden are security risks.

As for our soldiers, given she’s the commander of the the Alaska National Guard, if she has one day of command experience there, it’s more than Obama or Biden have or will ever have.

Indeed, American citizens need to know the truth. And they will not find that from the Obama compaign, nor Obama’s shills and shillettes in the blogosphere and the wrongly named MSM.

Spreading insults? Then please respond point by point to what I’ve said and correct me, rather than your blanket “spreading insults” statement.

And, indeed, lady, I’m more interested in the security of our nation and the future of our children.

That’s why I intend to vote for McCain-Palin and urge anyone I know or don’t know to do the same. Especially given that they are not the champions of infanticide as Obama is, as the Demockacrat Party is. Especially since I’m pretty sure these two can recognize evil and deal with it, not attempt to talk it to death in negotiations having no preconditions.

“The left in this country is an utterly depraved, vile element and they own the Democrat party. A normal person who generally likes America can’t enter a chatroom or read a lefty blog for 5 minutes without feeling sick and angered at what is being said on any given day. They now have a stealth radical candidate that is the culmination of decades of effort to get one in the White House.

60 days to decide our collective fate.”

Um… do you even know what “left” and “radical” mean, because I don’t think you do. They’re not the goblins that Rush or whoever you let do the thinking for you tells you. Frankly, what you’ve written here should be as sickening to any right-thinking person than whatever you think it is you’re reading on these “vile” left-wing sites.

I mean, seriously. I’m uncomfortable even responding to this– and not just because I know I’m talking to a brick wall here– because you obviously don’t even know what you’re afraid of. It would be hilarious… if I didn’t think you were actually deadly serious. And it pains me greatly to see so many people fall in line with the idea that politics should be treated as a holy war. It’s such an inversion of what democracy is supposed to be about– you don’t pick a side first and then act like a hysterical $#%@#$$# moron in defense of everything your side supports. That’s exactly the kind of thinking that the crazies we’re fighting in Afghanistan subscribe to– completely different positions, but the same extremism in defense of whatever their mullah tells them is right.

And for crying out loud! America as a “force for good and freedom”?!? Maybe listen to your boy McCain’s ads about why Hillary wasn’t picked as Obama’s VP: sometimes the truth hurts. And if you’d actually attempted to read about the long, ugly history of this country’s foreign policy, you might understand what a cruel joke that statement is. Sure, the America you talk about has wonderful intentions, but it’s astonishing that after 8 years of GWB anyone would be dumb enough to keep watching the great wizard’s lips move and not looking at what’s going on behind the curtain.

Put more bluntly, you may THINK the left is an “utterly depraved, vile element”, but my God, by now you should KNOW that’s exactly what the right is. (Notwithstanding, of course, the complete BS social issues that the right has somehow brilliantly convinced stupid people to waste their time taking a stand on– opposing reproductive rights, opposing gun control, opposing same-sex marriage, getting tough on drugs, throwing more people in jail)

Nice work on the photos, though I feel dirty coming anywhere near this site. What an impressive collection you’ve got yourselves here. And I hate to respond and lower the level of discourse, when it’s already below the floor for the most part, but the person who wrote the comment quoted below cannot really be serious, can they?

It’s amazing how people get so focused on keeping themselves entrenched on the sides they’ve taken up that they don’t actually have time for a critical, reasonable thought or two. I guess it’s just easier to think within the framework that you’ve been spoon-fed, huh? Vast left-wing conspiracy and all that. Tax and spend. More of the same. . . I don’t know… I just guess it would be nice if more people could articulate their view of the world without merely parroting somebody else’s talking points, and maybe be a little bit cynical about the people on both sides instead of just the OTHER side.

‘It just shows me how scared the Obama campaign is now…it sickens me how they can promote this. They can’t discredit her with anything else, obviously. “Hope and change” and a “new kind of politics”, indeed! Smells like the same old garbage to me.’

The more I read this board the more I worry about our country. If you put a frog in hot boiling water it will try to jump out. If you put it in cold water and gradually turn up the heat the frog will boil to death.

We have eight years of the heat being gradually turned up and most of the people on this board have no idea what is happening to them.

I respect your right to have an opinion but I must say that I shake my head at the gullability displayed on this board. I would venture to say that most of you know little to nothing about Palin but you will blindly support her because she is not Democrat and the Republican Party picked her.

I laugh when the leftists question Palin’s “judgement” with regards to her air travel with the child. Most of the left blogs have questioned her “judgement” with having a Down’s baby in the first place.

Yet they won’t question Obama’s “judgement” when it comes to his 20 year association with Rev Wright and his Hate-America, Hate-Whitey sermons. They don’t question his assoication and friendship with domestic terroist William Ayers.

They don’t question Obama’s “judgement” in voting Present 134 times instead of taking a stand on something (other than infantcide) while in the Illinois Senate.

They don’t question their own party’s “judgement” in supporting Obama for POTUS when he has never, ever accomplished anything noteworthy in his life, other than obtaining the next stepping stone in life.

They don’t question why the Obama team files lawsuits and uses intimidation tactics to silence people trying to get questions to answers Obama and his staff refuse to answer. No complaints about the “judgement” of those tactics, even though it is further proof that Obama has stuff to hide.

If McCain and Palin started filing lawsuits to stop DailyKos and other left wing smear groups from putting out their filth, the left would cry censorship. Maybe it’s because they are not a couple of Ivy League-elitest lawyers, so they don’t have that lawsuit mentality and that they don’t have to answer questions. I digress.

By the way, even though the MSM and so called “analysts” report that the Palin pick won’t influence the PUMA crowd, you people are seriously underestimating them. They resent the way another woman is being treated (regardless of political views) and they also resent that Obama, Dean, Reid, Pelosi and the rest of the DNC leaders think that Hillary supporters are mindless robots who will just vote Democrat because they are told to. You certainly don’t respect their own “judgement” do you?

Continuing with the “judgement” theme, the leftist hacks are trying to make the case that McCain’s “judgement” must be lacking because of his “very-risky and questionable” pick of Palin for VP.

Let’s review what would have happened if he went with one of the other suspected choices McCain had.

1. Ridge, Lieberman - Would have completely turned off the base resulting in landslide defeat.

2. Huckabee - Would have excited a base of Evangelicals and done nothing to help. Result - huge defeat.

3. Whitman - Ex CEO of Ebay was not going to excite anybody and no political experience. Result - huge defeat.

4. Pawlenty - His selection would have drawn as much excitement as the Biden pick for Obama. A good man, but would not have helped much other than Minnesota. Result - defeat.

5. Condi Rice - Good pick for VP but would have been slammed for being 4 more years of Bush. Result - huge defeat.

6. Romney - The best male choice on paper, but the left and MSM would have pounded the theme of the “2 rich white guys with lots of houses” till election day. Plus the “Mormon” tag would still hang on him with the religious right. Result - narrow defeat.

That is not spin, that is fact. That is exactly would have happened with any of those picks. McCain was running a “Bob Dole” style of campaign that was not inspiring anybody on the right. Sarah Palin energized the entire base and gave McCain a chance to pick up support amongst women, which he no doubt needed in order to have a chance of winning. For him to have picked anybody else (except Romney), the Right would have questioned his judgement and the left would be happy that the election was in the bag.

When you lose in November, Bill and Hillary will certainly be questioning your “judgement”! LOLOLOLOLOL

Scandals aside, should the mother of a newborn with down-syndrome really be taking on a position of vice-president? excuse me for saying, but it seriously undermines her credibility on family values, not to mention proves her to be an uncaring mother.

This has nothing to do with Obama or McCain. It has to do with the safety of Americans, including our soldiers! If Palin is to be the next VP, then it is our right as American citizens to know the truth. PERIOD. Instead of spreading your insults, you should be more interested in the security of this nation and the future of children.

Wow!

Who would have thought that the moonbats were actually just concerned about national security and doing the CIAs job by spreading a delusional libel.

For clarity.

The first part of my comment was supposed to be a quote from the second comment in the thread by “Amy”.

Wow!! Lots of passion from BOTH sides posted here on this site!… But the evidence seems to prove the Republicans right… this time. No argument from me. I would agree with one who commented that this was likely the fabrication of a radical Dem. Definately not to say the the Right isn’t without its own… and McCain never stops the Corci’s of the literary world. So let’s try and chill on the finger-pointing, shall we?

I truly hope We The People could keep the rhetoric to a minimum. No one wins when venomous attacks become downright cancerous to our nation’s need to create a better Country. On that, we should all agree.

Some will vote Republican– whether it be for their beliefs, their pocketbook, or their perception of this nation’s priorities. Some will vote Democrat because it’s in THEIR interest. We need to respect that difference– even embrace it, if you were to consider the alternative, that is.

Can we now get back to the important ISSUES, please?? (2 wars, stubbornly sagging economy, Int’l relations, loans from China, outsourcing our jobs, crumbling infratrustrure, lackluster educational record, soaring gas prices, speculators, our environment). –Kinda makes this “pregnancy” drama seem petty by comparison, doesn’t it??

How can Americans be so gullible and so easily tricked and fooled by these rumors.
Only in America can Michael Moore be so highly praised.
Only in America can Al Gore be so highly praised and receive the Nobel Prize of Peace.
Only in America are people lead by the nose.
God Bless America.

Ummm….to the person curious as to how a non-pregnant person can breastfeed–look up relactation, or inducing lactation. I did it. It’s not that big of a mystery!

I dont know why they bother its mud on their face now everyone knows who is behind it ,as for obamas claim i was born a muslim and im now a christian ,sorry mate once a muslim always a muslim they dont allow changes.

Even if the rumors were true (which I absolutely do not believe), WHO CARES? If anything, it would reflect positively on Palin’s family values. It would qualify as a personal, family matter.

IF IT WERE TRUE, would the Dems have preferred an unwed, teen mother to go on WIC and welfare and abandon her education to raise an unplanned child?

Or, would they have preferred to rally around her on the way to the abortion clinic?

And the Dems call McCain desperate…

Lots of women have excess around their middle without being pregnant. For anyone to go after her daughter like that is cruel. This is why teenage girls have eating disorders.

Also, I don’t care which candidate you support, let’s not drag their children into this! They’re kids for ****’s sake!

I think the liberals need to stop watching Desperate Housewives. This exact storyline was in last years episodes of Desperate housewives. Someone needs to tell these nutcases that Hollywood is not “real” life.

Hahahaahah…

You’re taking down all my comments.

You have any idea how sad that is?

ricland

Hahahahaha…

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“CKA, Have you completely lost your mind?! This has nothing to do with Obama or McCain. It has to do with the safety of Americans, including our soldiers! If Palin is to be the next VP, then it is our right as American citizens to know the truth. PERIOD. Instead of spreading your insults, you should be more interested in the security of this nation and the future of children.”

And what does this have to do with with the ability to keep America and our soldiers safe? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Maybe the smoke and mirrors game of politics is convincing to the Dem lemmings (hey, you guys picked Obama), but if you want to create a deflection, you’re going to have to do better than this. Now, I know you’ll probably take this as a dare and try to dig, dig, dig, but if you really care about your country and your soldiers as you claim to, you’ll look at facts rather than read the Enquirer.

D = desperate
E = enterprise of
M = more of the
S = same

McCain/Palin in 2008!

To rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant

See this reuters headline
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2944356420080901

This world is really crazy

How energizing for you democrats! This truly proves that you were right and the republicans were wrong!

But, what does this have to do with the qualifications of the candidates?

I know expect every Leftist smear merchant to apologise about the “not her baby” claim. Yeah, right.

barbara, how were they right?

Their accusation was that Governor Palin engaged in an incredible plan of deception and somehow hid a daughter’s pregnancy and birth while simultaniously faking her own then she faked all the paperwork using her position to do it.

Their timing was a good year off. Trig is months old right now and Bristol, the daughter, is months preganant currently. They weren’t even close.

McCain correctly rejected this as some kind of disqualifier for Governor Palin. Apparently Bristol is going to be marrying the father. Best of luck to them.

It’s pretty sad that the dems can’t even come up with an original tabloid story, so they take the storyline of Desperate Housewives.

Anyways, let’s play the tabloid story game. Palin’s last child was a coverup for her 16 year old daughter’s pregnancy, and Obama is a racist and actually in a Muslim terrorist sleeper cell.

This whole thing is going to backfire on the liberal blogs. Sarah Palin has just debunked the rumores by revealing that her daughter is currently 5 months pregnant. I wrote about it on my blog here: http://www.enhancedperfection.com/2008/09/palin-admits-her-daughter-is-pregnant/

If you want more information I would check out Reuters.

All I can see is that beautiful girl wearing an awful fashion that gives even the best of fit bodies “muffin top.”

What I feel is hurt for that young woman who is being called “fat” for political points. Have you any idea what this type of criticism will do to her? She will live with this the rest of her life.

“America as a “force for good and freedom”?!? . . . And if you’d actually attempted to read about the long, ugly history of this country’s foreign policy, you might understand what a cruel joke that statement is.”

- - -

America rescued Europe from ruin and enslavement in WWI. Then, America went back and rescued Europe, Asia, and most everywhere else, from the combined ruin and enslavement sought by German National Socialism, and fanatical “superior race” adherents of Japan. In doing so, American fighters sacrificed themselves by the hundreds of thousands, for the sake of others.

Later, we went to Korea, which was faced with enslavement to a Korean communist party which placed little or no value on any individual, believing that “the people” was more important than any individual, and that individuals could always be sacrificed should anyone in power simply invoke “the people” as is motivation.

We went to Viet Nam, where the people truly had expressed, strongly, a fervent desire that the communist push to take over that country be stopped. We made the mistake then of listening to the agenda-driven mass media, which convinced us that we were on the wrong side, and so we surrendered and fled, and as a consequence millions more were butchered, and freedom was lost.

We went to Iraq, with no territorial motives, no “oil” motives, no hegemonic motives at all - our motives mostly involved getting rid of the most destabilizing Middle East influence, a dictator who had been massacreing his own people for decades, and who tried his best to convince us and the world that he was about to have nukes (and Clinton, Gore, Chirac, Albright, etc. all believed him, long before Bush did), and we did get rid of him, and now we’re trying to help Iraq (a country where the people with leadership potential have been the targets of SH for years) set up a workable government that has a place for every Iraqi group.

But, damn, we’re evil. eh?

Ass.

This story that Sarah did not have the baby is a joke! DO YOU REALIZE HOW EASY THIS IS TO PROVE? not to mention how HARD IT WOULD BE TO FAKE A DELIVERY. Too many people involved to fool.

Doctors
Nurses
Medical Records
Birth Certificates
Photos

Drop this non-sense and move on to something worth your time. Like we P.Diddy hates Alaskan’s. LOL! yeah, google it.

From Reuters via TPM Election Central:
The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin’s five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.

When I see this on the MAIN STREAM NEWS I will belive it. Until then I really am over this story.

ok, I believe it. It’s on CNN, FOX, NBC
Nice timing of the release though, right in the middle of Gutav. Of course we know that hurricane Gutav was “created” in order that McCain could release this bombshell.

Ha! Take that!

Republikeine: 1
Demokrate: 0

I get a feeling this election will be fun to watch…

To countless leftwing bloggers calling Sarah Palin a hypocrite over this, I’ve posted some variation of the following:

Yes, there’s definitely some hypocrisy here but you need to get a mirror to see it.

Put yourself in Sarah Palin’s shoes. You strongly advocate abstinence to your children. One of your daughters chooses to not listen to you and gets pregnant. What do you then? If you’re true to your (Palin’s) convictions then you would encourage her to have the baby. And that’s what she’s doing and getting married to the father as well.

As for the hypocrisy I mentioned earlier, I trust you’re aware that Barack Obama was born to an 18 year-old mother who was not married to the father at the time.

Final question: You seem to have no hesitation to delve into the sex life of Sarah Palin’s daughter. Should we thus assume that you’re advocating open attacks into Barack & Michele’s two adorable daughters? Sure sounds like. That’s pretty sick.

In response to Robert W., Barack Obama was born to an 18 mother who did marry her when she was three months pregnant with Barack. Barack and Michele’s daughters are totaly innocent children, I doubt at the age of 10 and 7 there will be any controversies surrounding them any time soon.I find it funny that all of the sudden every wants to keep family off limits, yet had no problem savagely going after the Obama family. I am a Democrat, yet I have many conservative values, prolife, the right bear arms, homosexuality against them all. I can never seem to vote Republican, because of the hypocrisy in the Republican Party.You all preach abstinence, yet when one of YOUR OWN gets pregnant out of wedlock, we the people should look the other way. Maybe if some of you would get your heads out of the clouds and speak on birth control as well as abstinence our possible future VP’s daughter would not be having a forced marriage and baby before the age of 18.(trust me this marriage is forced)!

Sorry I made a mistake I AM pro life, and believe in the right to bear arms. Against homosexuality though.

I think the comments about Obama not calling down the rumors quicker are just ridiculous. I’ve been saying for years that Republicans have to stand up against these sorts of tactics EVEN WHEN THEY HELP US because we look like complete hypocrites otherwise. Who among the posters here called for Bush to denounce the rumours about McCain’s child during the SC primary in 2000? Hmmm? And by the way, did he? Did he even acknowledge, much less condemn, the actions of his supporters? And did any of you spend one minute thinking less of Bush for it?

Thought so.

Preston and the rest are idiots/jacka–es

My cousin is a doctor. His wife was a teacher. They run, bike and exercise regularly, eat well, and are extremely fit. In fact, people have teased her that she is too healthy when she didn’t want her first to get treats at a family gathering.

She was barely 30 when she had her second child. Everyone was thrilled when their son was born and was apparently quite healthy (and there had been no indication of any problems. But my aunt had noticed a something about his eyes when she saw her grandson; and when she was reading the paper later that day, she noticed an article on Downs.
She said something to her son, and when they checked it turns out their son has Downs - He IS an Adorable boy.

But I would dare you to find any of your CRAPTASTIC reasons flying in the 8th or 9th month is not going to cause Downs and you are idiot if you believe that - and you are idiot if you don;t believe it and wrote that BS anyway… so I guess by decutive logic, we’ve established that Preston is an idiot!

Marc&Pam - “right ..THIS Time”. So far in recent years and especially about Obama, and Edwards…EVERY TIME!

I’m quoting this, HOWEVER, since it comes out of a democrats mouth it must be a lie, right…
September 01, 2008 2:28 PM

At a brief press availability in Monroe, Mich., ABC News asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., if he had any response to Gov. Sarah Palin’s statement that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant.

“Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits,” Obama said, “and people’s children are especially off limits.

“This shouldn’t be part of our politics,” he continued, “It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.

“And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” he said. “You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off limits.”

Asked about the insinuation from the McCain campaign that the liberal bloggers trafficking in rumors about Palin write for websites that mention Obama, the senator said, “I’m offended by that.”

The Democratic presidential nominee said, “There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us. I hope I am as clear as can be – so in case I’m not, let me repeat: We don’t go after people’s families, we don’t get them involved in the politics. It’s not appropriate and it’s not relevant.”

Concluded Obama before getting on his campaign bus headed to Milwaukee, Wisc., “Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought that it was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they’d be fired.”

-Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

I think many of you are dancing around the real issue of abortion vrs. right to lifer. At the saddleback debate both candidates espoused their position on when a unborn child has rights. McCain said ‘at conception’ and Obama said ‘it was above his pay grade’. The McCain side knows their candidates position but the other side saw that Obama would not dare say he IS for all abortions incl. third term abortion AND ‘infantiside’ and letting ABORTED third term babies DIE in a sink rather that have a law that allows medical care as the audio tape in the Ill. State Senate proved. Do you know that in Dealth penalty cases IF a convict survives YOU cannot execute him again. It seems that murderers have more rights in America than the 40+ million unborn babies aborted since Roe V. Wade. That is a horrible fact that must be stopped. By the way only 1% of babies aborted are rape and incest so don’t restate that red herring. The real reason for the fight is that the left says abortion WILL BE stopped if McCain/Palin get elected amd The right-to-life people know Obama will have the opportunity to get 3 ultra left Supremes on the court with a Democrat Congress and Senate,therefore undoing all things to restrict ANY abortions including 3rd term abortions !!!
That fact will be heightened with Palin because she obviously walks the talk about right to life and Libers cannot stand for a person that dedicated on anti-abortion a heart beat away from the Presidency!!

Yeah Barak wants kids off limit, and Biden made a speech about it because Biden’s son (and Biden’s brother) are in the midst of:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/bidens-brother-son-accused-of-fraud

“A son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour, court records show.

The Democratic vice presidential candidate’s son Hunter, 38, and brother James, 59, assert instead that their former partner defrauded them by misrepresenting his experience in the hedge fund industry and recommending that they hire a lawyer with felony convictions.

The legal actions have been playing out in New York State Supreme Court since 2007, and they focus on Hunter and James Biden’s involvement in Paradigm Companies LLC, a hedge fund group. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, briefly served as president of the firm.

A lawsuit filed by their former partner Anthony Lotito Jr. asserts in court papers that the deal was crafted to get Hunter Biden out of lobbying because his father was concerned about the impact it would have on his bid for the White House. Biden was running for the Democratic nomination at the time the suit was filed.

Hunter Biden was made president with an annual salary of $1.2 million, despite his inexperience in the hedge fund industry, the lawsuit said. Before that, he had been part of the Washington law firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair, which earned $1.76 million in lobbying revenue in the first half of 2006, according to Congressional Quarterly’s CQ MoneyLine. One of its biggest clients is the National Association of Shareholder and Consumer Attorneys, a District-based group representing law firms specializing in investment and corporate law.”

And this:

“Sen. Barack Obama sought more than $3.4 million in congressional earmarks for clients of the lobbyist son of his Democratic running mate, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, records show. Obama succeeded in getting $192,000 for one of the clients, St. Xavier University in suburban Chicago.”

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-gave-bidens-son-34m-via-earmarks

I don’t believe this story, she seems pregnant to me. Still, how does Obama get blamed for this?

Whoever doesn’t support Obama is a racist. You just can’t accept the idea that a black man can be good at something other than entertainment, I’m sure you would rather see us all shuckin’ and jivin’ on stage with watermelon’s than see us run the country. It’s a damn shame, that’s disgusting.

From a true Democrat who suffers deeply due to Republicans
and all their theft from the middle to poor class people. Unless you make a large amount of money in this lifetime you are a complete fool to vote for McCain and Palin. I am a single white woman who votes for what this country needs, which is a complete change if we are to survive the future as America. Wake the hell up people take a good look at what Bush had done to this country and all of us. Do you really want to repeat this hell again? Sure McCain was a war hero, big deal I have several family members who are also. This is not about rewards for being a prisoner of war. This is about running our country. Also think about Bush and Chaney’s hands in the oil getting very richer for their future, McCain is right behind them. Look at all the facts…Don’t be a bunch of total ass—— wake the hell up, before you vote and do more damage. Remember you gave Bush 2 terms and look what the hell he has done. He is a total jerk, are you going to be like him?

Ha ha ha ha ha you won’t debate me because I know the truth!!!

I can tell you all about how McCain is a FRAUD!

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